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  "Lollipop, The Roadmap, Physical Goods, and What's Next", A Translation
Posted by: roddie - 03-14-2016, 07:21 AM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (8)

Christopher Price Wrote:Lollipop, The Roadmap, Physical Goods, and What's Next

Hi all, it's time for an update!

First, in case you haven't been glued to our comment wall, we started posting Console OS Lollipop a couple or so weeks back. You can log in and download it right now, if you're a Kickstarter backer.

It's important to note that Console OS Lollipop, is a complete reboot of the project. Under our new path forward, we are forking the Android-x86 source code, and delivering a free, open-source software alternative to rival closed-source distributions that have followed in our footsteps.

And, we've open-sourced the full stack... something that some of our competitors, using the same kernel have not done.

Of course, I only made it open to Kickstarter backers and did my best to not even post an update to try and ensure people did not even find out about it - including removing access for backers who would point out that this 'release' includes none of my own work. It's important to understand that being free and open source is now important to this project (that originally secretly tried to sell something that people could already download for free) because it's not very difficult to open-source a line-for-line copy of someone else's open source project. Of course, it's the full stack that is open source, until you ask me to point out just what it is that I've developed - it's at that point that I tell you those parts are closed source and cannot be disclosed due to non-disclosure agreements with imaginary industry partners.

Christopher Price Wrote:What to Expect from Lollipop
Our favorite new feature, is the Console OS Express releases. These are, by far, the easiest-to-install distributions of the Android operating system yet. Just copy to a FAT-formatted flash drive, and reboot off of it. That's it!
Unlike other "live" distributions, there's no additional work required. You have a portable, and fully writable, installation of Android for your PC. It takes more bandwidth on our end, but we think it's well worth it.
Some PCs may need UEFI Secure Boot disabled, particularly those that shipped with Windows. And, the same general hardware support requirements apply - which is that Intel-clean systems work best.
We do hope to begin code-signing Console OS for UEFI Secure Boot in the near future, which will remove that step.
NVIDIA and AMD systems, however, remain not supported. We welcome the statements that AMD and NVIDIA have made over the past year, committing to supporting the very features that we need from their open-source driver stacks. But, they just haven't matured enough to take on Android. We hope to continue our ongoing dialogue with AMD on this subject, and start a new one with NVIDIA.

This is where I use a lot more words than necessary to tell you that the only thing I've done to Android-x86 is compile it. Also, some more meaningless references to ongoing dialogue with industry partners that will never be detailed or confirmed.

Christopher Price Wrote:The general public will get access to Console OS Lollipop just one short week from today.We expect to have an updated release available around then - one that will fix a couple key bugs, and add a couple key features. As promised in the original Kickstarter campaign, we'll continue to tap Kickstarter backers as the first wave of early access testers.


Unfortunately due to an NDA, I can't tell you how long a Christopher Price 'short week' is in real time. Kickstarter backers who make up the first wave of early access testers amounted to a single person on my forum who noted that opening any applications caused the OS to crash. Unfortunately, his post was difficult to locate because the forums (you backers paid for) is actually 99% spam - luckily for you, I was able to inflate this single installation to "privately received ... massive support" when I referenced it on the Kickstarter comment wall.

Christopher Price Wrote:Mopping Up
We have more work to do. Some things like the loss of Android-IA for PC were simply unforeseeable, and unavoidable. But, we can do better.
One area that we didn't hit the mark on was Console Developer Rewards. We're sorry for that - and we're going to outline what we're doing to make it right. We met our self-imposted timetable to post terms, but we didn't give people enough time for feedback, and to properly inform the projects we plan to support. 
While we're setting up Console.com.co/devrewards - you can read the terms under the original update. Fortunately, the feedback we've gotten is pretty positive. We have 2-in-1's, Core i5 build servers, and even Compute Sticks ready to give away in our first month.
We're moving back the first month of Console Developer Rewards to March 21, a week from today. This will give us time to have everything in-place and do it correctly.

The loss of Android-IA was unforeseeable, especially to my backers since I never actually told them it was Console OS in all but name - its demise was slightly less unforeseeable by those predicting its demise due to a lack of willingness by Google and Microsoft to support dual-booting. It was also totally unavoidable unless you consider that I found out three days after funding was green-lit and so could have just come clean and refunded people. But what I actually did was change my story to say that I didn't find out until over 60 days later which then recently changed to me being gagged by yet another non-existent NDA.


Console Developer Rewards was just some time-buying farce where I thought by some miracle I could get people to code my project for me since Intel dropped the first project I stole and Android-x86 abandoned their Lollipop build, the target of my next theft. I could've happily forgotten about and ignored this nonsense update until a single person on Twitter chased me up on it - this gave me chance to write a whole load of even more meaningless spraff that will no doubt amount to nothing once again. Somehow, even though I wrote in early January that it would roll out next month, another update of outlining and empty promises in March constitutes meeting my own "self-imposted" target.

Christopher Price Wrote:Also, on physical goods - shipping Console OS Lollipop is an important next step. As soon as we heard that Android-IA for PC was on troubled waters, we announced we were delaying the shipment of physical goods. Frankly, until we shipped Lollipop - we would rather have refunded people for the physical goods, than ship a laptop sticker for something that didn't pan out.
Now that Console OS is back in action, we're going to start providing regular updates. Some things like the most-major perks will ship rather immediately. Laptop skins, will take the next month or so, as we have to re-select vendors and get proofs, approve them, and then take on the logistics of shipping them. We only have a few hundred physical goods remaining from the campaign, but we're going to ship each and every one of them!
Finally, we are working on the about box, and integrating backers names into the credits there. More on that will come in a future update as well.

In nearly two years, I haven't even bothered to investigate vendors, proofs or shipping. We are working on integrating backers' names onto the boxes - there won't be names of the Console OS developers because they don't actually exist.


Christopher Price Wrote:What's Next (for Console OS)
We're at another fork in the road... some pun intended. Let's chat about that for a minute.
It's an exciting time for Android on PC. With Android N announced, people can see why we are positioning ourselves as being the commercial Pure Android solution for PCs... Android is growing up to the PC, much as we anticipated!
With multi-window, Vulkan console-grade graphics, and a plethora of keyboard-and-mouse enhancements... we're really excited about Android N.
But, with that excitement, comes challenges. Specifically, PC manufacturers (OEMs, as we call them), aren't very hip to the notion of embracing a non-Google solution for Android today. Simply put, they've been told to wait - for Google. It's hard to argue with a juggernaut like that, particularly now that Android N is in the developer preview phase.
So, we won't. We'll address what we're doing to make money in the next section.
Our focus will be on setting up Marshmallow on our GitHub, incorporating the Android-x86 kernel, while at the same time, expanding the commercial and non-FOSS feature set to add one feature at a time. Supporting new AOSP releases, faster, will be our first goal - consistent with the feedback you raised in Hardware Voting.
Work for that will be well under way, by month's end. Also, we are working hard to integrate the per-device builds that we started on GitHub, utilizing per-device DPI calibrations and other features in the kernel. In English - there will be one build of Console OS for you to download, for all devices.


If I can waste enough time writing these updates and making promises I can't keep, I'm hoping Google will eventually develop the features I said I'd already built 18 months before I even started to fleece Kickstarter backers for cash. Our focus is not on developing a working a Lollipop release (despite all the times I claimed it's what backers voted for!), it is of course on stealing the Marshmallow build of Android-x86 since it is actively being developed (by someone else). Finally, I can admit the much-touted per-device builds are nothing more than DPI settings (which are already specified in Android-x86).

Christopher Price Wrote:What's Next (for Console, Inc.)
We're still committed to Console OS. But we have to be realistic, with OEMs told to wait for Google, we aren't going to grow as a company barking up that tree. Not right now, at least.
We're confident than as Google-blessed Android PCs emerge, and replace Chrome OS, that Console OS will continue to do what we promised in our Risks outline, and that is to evolve the feature set, and roll with the punches.
Until then, we've been focused on two compelling new products. Unfortunately, our first push to make that happen, iConsole micro, just didn't get the industry support we were hoping to. Silicon makers were unwilling to collaborate with us on porting key Android drivers, and software support, to make that a retail-packaged offering.
We've learned from that, however. The experience has made us more fiercely independent.
Over the past year, we've been putting into place new hardware - truly disruptive hardware that does not require backers to invest money up front... nor does it require the blessing of chipmakers. We're pretty optimistic about what we've been building. And, as we pivot to devices as our mainstay, we think we can continue to push the limits of Android in a sustainable manner.

Over the last year I've been looking into other potential money-making scams once I've become bored of spending hours every day writing doublespeak about Console OS

And some bonus analysis on this tweet:

[Image: E8MVSgt.png]
All those times I wrote about writing updates, passing them round the teams, reviewing them and rewriting them? That's a lie, there's no office or team - I just make this shit up as I go along, writing it directly into the Kickstarter update box at 4am from my bed in my parents' basement.

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  Disgraced developer? You decide.
Posted by: Mary's Goats - 03-12-2016, 02:23 PM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (4)

   

Chih-Wei Huang:

  • National Taiwan University - Bachelor's degree in Physics, Master's degree in Electrical engineering
  • Director of Top Technology Inc.
  • CTO of Citron Network Inc.
  • Project Manager of Tecom Inc.
  • Senior researcher of Core Technology Center in ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
  • Starting member and council of Software Liberty Assosication of Taiwan
  • Founder and coordinator of Chinese Linux Documentation Project
  • Wrote the Linux Chinese HOWTO, translated HOWTO Index, Linux META-FAQ, Serial HOWTO, DNS HOWTO, Linux Information SHEET, Java-CGI HOWTO, IP Masquerade, mini-HOWTO
  • Developed SGMLtools Chinese Kits
  • Second coordinator and developer of Chinese Linux Extension, and wrote a book about CLE
  • Core developer of GNU Gatekeeper
  • Won first prize of Open Source Contest Taiwan in 2003
  • Committer of KDE and GNONE
  • Contributor of pyDict, OpenH323, Asterisk, GStreamer
  • Originator of Android-x86 in 2009
Christopher Price:
  • University of California, Davis - Bachelor's degree in Political Science
  • Worked at Verizon
  • Intel Black Belt from participation in an Intel online community forum
  • Worked at Beyondsoft as a Marketing and Business Development Manager for 9 months (we all know CP embellishes everything, so I wonder what that position entailed)
  • 4 failed startups/scam-crowdfunding campaigns: Phonenews.com, Mechaworks, iConsoleTV, Console OS
  • Zero proof of any code written by CP, anywhere

Is this a joke?

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  What it truly means to be an Intel Black Belt Developer "ninja"
Posted by: Mary's Goats - 03-11-2016, 03:30 PM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (4)

So ya, since CP loves to paste everywhere that he's an Intel Black Belt like it's some meaningful accomplishment, I decided to finally look up what's required to become one. All the information can be found here: https://software.intel.com/en-us/blackbelt


Basically, you need to join the Intel Developer Zone forum community and post stuff. That's it:

   



You move up the ranks in the forum community by collecting points, becoming more and more "esteemed" as you receive your green, brown, red, and black belts:

   



So how do you achieve these points, you might ask. Surely you HAVE TO be a coder and provide legitimate software fixes? Well, here you are:

   

As of this point, 2 years later, we haven't seen a single line of legitimate code that CP has written, modified, or improved himself. Knowing he's quite adept at bending the English language and blogging, he could collect just as many points for doing those things. I am willing to wager that he failed to provide a single code sample during his entire time on the forums.



Tell me more Mary's Goats. What do you receive on your way through the dojo towards a black belt? Trips to conventions? Working with talented developers? Even better:

   



And finally, what do you get by being an Intel Black Belt Software Developer?

   



So there you have it, the Intel Black Belt Developer process. A glorified forum member who doesn't necessarily have to submit any code at all. You just have to know technical "stuff."

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  Saint Christopher Price of Chico, CA
Posted by: sortan - 03-10-2016, 09:38 PM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (15)

It must be frustrating for Christopher Price to be the only one to keep telling us how awesome he is, so, without further ado, I present a few of the many times poor Christopher has had to remind us:

My favorite: a class act, indeed, for contributing his (innumerable) code to open source:

Quote:Console OS has agreed to do so, most do not. A class act move on their part.

After all his success and contributions to the community, he has not taken one dime more. Bravo!

Quote:We haven't taken a dime from the community since Kickstarter

In spite of the trolls and the constant harassers, he volunteers his time, selflessly, to repeatedly answer questions. A saint indeed!

Quote:Contrary to the belief of some, Kickstarter does not obligate us to answer any questions here... we spend hours each week doing so, because we think it's the right thing to do.

I just want to say, that in spite of how Google and Intel have disgraced themselves by hurling roadblocks at poor Saint Christopher, how proud I am of how Christopher is blazing a new path forward!

And a new one, just today. Despite the venom from android-x86.org he makes android better for everybody out of the goodness of his heart.

Quote:We have made Android on PC better, and we will continue to.

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  Something a little different...the Coleco Chameleon
Posted by: JohnMcL7 - 03-10-2016, 10:24 AM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (11)

I thought you guys might like this one if you've not seen it, the project has been in the headlines as Coleco have pulled the plug on it but the story behind it is hilarious:

http://www.rosetintedgamers.com/2016/03/...ight-lies/

The final comment is particularly apt for Console OS:

Quote:The moral of this story: Never, EVER try to hoodwink, cheat or lie to a bunch of nerds and geeks with enough technical knowledge to call you out on it.
…And the press are brainless morons who can never be bothered to fact check.

John

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  A new Christopher Price business?
Posted by: Phuckit - 03-08-2016, 08:24 PM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (18)

Anyone see this yet? Registered this year, says Christopher Price and the address is the same he's used on a bunch of his other online things. Pretty sure its his parents house. Mr. Big time CEO still lives at home apparently lol.


http://www.bizapedia.com/ca/TOUCHY-INFO-LLC.html

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  Just requested that my favorite tech YouTuber do a piece on Console OS
Posted by: Mary's Goats - 03-08-2016, 12:43 AM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (2)

I love the tech YouTuber Lon Seidman and his channel Lon.tv. He's really a hidden gem and I'm glad his channel is growing. 

He does great videos, and recently he did one about a retro gaming console crowdfunding scam.

I just requested a video on the Console OS debacle. Chime in if you want to see it, he's using his Reddit page to take requests:

https://www.reddit.com/r/lonTV/comments/...onsole_os/

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Lightbulb False Copyright Infringement
Posted by: BackerX - 03-07-2016, 12:34 PM - Forum: DMCA Abuse - No Replies

Quote:If you send a DMCA takedown notice that is both false and meant in bad faith (such as to harass, or doesn’t state a real claim), you have committed perjury. Though unlikely, if the party you sent the takedown notice to decided to pursue this in court, you could face all of the consequences that your state imposes on people who lie in court. 

http://www.newmediarights.org/business_m...ent_claims

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  The Questions Thread (aka How to Become a Troll and Get a Refund)
Posted by: sortan - 03-06-2016, 10:54 PM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (4)

Let's start a resource for backers who still haven't gotten a refund and would like one. From what I've observed of the Kickstarter moderation, they don't remove questions or (polite) disagreement. They only seem to remove duplicate posts, stuff that uses "bad language" or uses real names of "team members". I'm sure Christopher has tired out his little fingers reporting posts for removal, but he has succeeded in getting very little removed.

So let's start a thread of questions to ask Christopher. Don't ask all the questions at the same time and don't expect any (real) answers, but be polite, be persistent, and perhaps you too can become a troll and get a refund! As a bonus, Christopher may accuse you of "harassment" and violating the "community guidelines".

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The Team

  • How many people work on ConsoleOS?
  • How many are in Paris?

ConsoleOS
  • What were some of the "Over 100 new features built-in already" link
  • What are any new features that the ConsoleOS team have added to either Android-IA or Android-x86?
  • What is the status on the ConsoleOS Pro features, including, WindowFlinger (A true window manager for Android), InstaSwitch, Console Remote Access, Native DVR support, Built-in media serving (UPnP and DLNA), Console Files, and Console Maps Pro? Why are these "Pro" features delayed/cancelled by a kernel change?
  • How *exactly* were backer funds spent?
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Post more questions, and I'll edit them in. Let's try to keep it fair (no when did you stop beating your wife? questions), because Christopher has given us more than enough material to work with!

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  Deleted Thread
Posted by: BackerX - 03-06-2016, 09:39 PM - Forum: ConsoleOS Rip-Off Open Forum - Replies (2)

Sorry guys, but that was just crazy.  This project should be about doing a little investigation/documentation and hopefully having a laugh along the way.  If we start fighting amongst ourselves, then it becomes kind of pointless.

Also, if you find yourself questioning the motives of the site's admin and mods it's probably time to mosey along.  We like things with as little drama as possible here, and it's been working well for the last.. almost two months. 

Cheers!


BackerX

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